{"id":327,"date":"2022-03-22T23:42:43","date_gmt":"2022-03-23T06:42:43","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/?p=327"},"modified":"2022-03-22T23:42:43","modified_gmt":"2022-03-23T06:42:43","slug":"no-hierarchies-only-vibes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/?p=327","title":{"rendered":"No Hierarchies &#8211; Only Vibes"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-text-align-center has-white-color has-vivid-red-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-c65facff4f34509586f4017d60644492 is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-text-align-center has-accent-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">&#8216;\u2026 we\u2019d love to hear more about y\u2019all&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2026 as a meme page and a quasi-group? collective? whatever y\u2019all wanna say. In your ideology what are some more positive aspects of y\u2019all? Because from what Tyler said, from what y\u2019all had to say \u2026 y\u2019all sound great?&#8217;<br><br>&#8216;Don\u2019t take this the wrong way, but y\u2019all seem like the chillest anarchists I\u2019ve ever met.&#8217;<\/p>\n<cite>Dixieland of the Proletariat<br><a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/dixieland-of-the-proletariat-ep-66-hail-satan-w-queer-satanic-heretics\/\">Episode 66 \u201cHail Satan\u201d w\/Queer Satanic Heretics<\/a><br>Timestamp <a href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/+V1-dxZ7NI\/1:13:03\">1:12:55<\/a><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-style-default has-black-color has-white-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-f70bec215792edbd3c26696b44454ab5 is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8216;Just gotta find myself a good community similar &#8230;&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8216;I just want a fun Satanic group that isn\u2019t garbage filled with manipulative leaders.&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8216;How do I join you?&#8217;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8216;Why don\u2019t you start an organization?&#8217;<\/p>\n<cite><strong><em>Evergreen Memes for Queer Satanic Fiends Facebook page comments<\/em><\/strong><\/cite><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator has-alpha-channel-opacity\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">From the very moment we committed our story to written word\u2014what The Satanic Temple calls our \u201cmanifestos\u201d and very graciously included copies of in their <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courtlistener.com\/docket\/17042463\/united-federation-of-churches-llc-v-johnson\/?fbclid=IwAR3hzfJ1Vlqo1XySraFhz7v32ZGQtptt1gdmTYmBHtpb3ASZTXdShn7wB_E\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">federal court filings<\/a> against us (please see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courtlistener.com\/docket\/17042463\/1\/5\/united-federation-of-churches-llc-v-johnson\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Exhibit 5&nbsp;\u2013&nbsp;Document #1, Attachment #5<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.courtlistener.com\/docket\/17042463\/26\/5\/united-federation-of-churches-llc-v-johnson\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Exhibit 5&nbsp;\u2013&nbsp;Document #26, Attachment #5<\/a>)\u2014we have received commentary like this. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Even in the latter (Exhibit 5,&nbsp;Document #26, Attachment #5), there is a similar comment from a third-party that TST uses as the basis for one of their newer throw-spaghetti-on-the-wall-and-see-if-it-sticks claims against us.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/2022-03-22_16-23-25-7.png\" alt=\"facebook comment that reads &quot;welp time to found your own&quot;\"\/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Queer Satanic has never been and was never intended to be an organization or official \u201cgroup.\u201d We have no organization, no members, and no hierarchy. Even the name \u201cQueer Satanic\u201d stemmed from the original meme page, &#8220;Evergreen Memes for Queer Satanic Fiends&#8221; and handle @QueerSatanicMemes, which we then shortened and used across social media platforms in order to spread the word of TST\u2019s SLAPP suit against us. That&#8217;s a lawsuit that \u2013 regardless of any personal feelings \u2013 bound us together (so far indefinitely) into a group called \u201cdefendants.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8220;Queer Satanic&#8221; was a moniker that fit us, that reflected the values that led to our ousting as heretics, and the principles that we wished to embrace in our lives. To put it shortly: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Queer Satanic is not an organization. Queer Satanic is vibes.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While we have remained in touch with folks who were also kicked out or who left of their own accord, those relationships are loose, purely social, and do not form any sort of official group or organization.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We\u2019d strongly encourage you to <a href=\"https:\/\/overcast.fm\/+V1-dxZ7NI\/1:13:03\">listen to our response<\/a> to Dixieland of the Proletariat\u2019s question in the podcast quoted above.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-white-color has-vivid-red-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-1e65ebb663f3a3621895128eb6ef9299 is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-primary-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Nelson<\/strong>:<br>I guess one of the last things we want ask\u2014 So, we talked about TST a lot. We talked about Satanism. But if y&#8217;all wanna talk more, we&#8217;d love to hear more about y&#8217;all as a meme page and a quasi- a group, collective, whatever y&#8217;all want to say. Like, in your ideology, what&#8217;s some like positive aspects of y&#8217;all? Because from what y&#8217;all have to say, it sounds y&#8217;all sound great. So I guess like, what are-<br><br><strong>Tyler<\/strong>:<br>Don&#8217;t take this the wrong way, but y&#8217;all seem like the chillest anarchists I&#8217;ve ever met That&#8217;s coming from a tankie.<br><br><strong>David Johnson<\/strong>:<br>Yeah, I mean, uh, if you like us, you know, when you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha. So you&#8217;ve met us, now you can reject that idea. What we have told other people is that we don&#8217;t have the bandwidth to be followed. Like, I mean you can follow us on Facebook and Twitter and stuff. That&#8217;s cool, but don&#8217;t like <em>follow us<\/em>-follow us. Don&#8217;t do what we say, cuz we said it. <strong>If you&#8217;re looking for a, like, chill, good anti-fascist organization, that&#8217;s satanic in your area \u2014 you should make that. You should make your affinity group and build that and <em>not <\/em>try to fit yourself into a hierarchy<\/strong>. I mean, <em>I<\/em> think I&#8217;m a cool dude, but maybe I&#8217;m <em>not <\/em>a cool dude. Or maybe if I had a bunch of power over people, I wouldn&#8217;t be.<br><br><strong>And so a better thing to do is to create structures where everybody&#8217;s accountable to everybody else.<\/strong> That&#8217;s what I would suggest to people. If you like what we do and you like the philosophy that we have, um, you should build that into your own community, and not look to us for anything, but cool memes and, uh, theory sometimes? And just look to us only for like education, but not, like, telling you <em>how<\/em> to do things or <em>what <\/em>to do, because a much better way to approach the world is find peers in your community and work with them to do the things you wanna do&#8230;. Also we&#8217;re exhausted. Like I&#8217;m- I fucking can&#8217;t- I can&#8217;t do anything more.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Or read some of our answers to similar questions on Tumblr over the years (<a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.tumblr.com\/post\/653492239874539520\/are-there-any-good-organisations-or-groups-about\">1<\/a>) (<a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.tumblr.com\/post\/656901661509468160\/hey-im-a-queer-atheist-satanist-of-color-i-just\">2<\/a>), but since we still get these questions, we are more than happy to send out a few words of encouragement.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Don\u2019t wait for someone else to make the perfect group for you. Make your own collective.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">You don\u2019t have to be a leader, and we\u2019d personally advise against hierarchies altogether. Our experiences and the experiences of others who support us across the nation (or world, perhaps?) show that if you are asking for such a group, there are assuredly folks near you who would also appreciate such a group. The ideal collectives are not worldwide, not nationwide, not even statewide. They are localized communities without hierarchies who share values, serve a need, and agree on a course of action. Preferably, direct action.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Don\u2019t look to us or anyone else to serve your needs; surely we will disappoint you. Instead, create the group that you need. Know that once the group has completely fulfilled that need, it may very well dissipate. But that\u2019s OK \u2013 that\u2019s the lifecycle of groups. The camaraderie you form with your fellow members may extend into another group that forms another purpose later; it may last a lifetime. Or it may only be appropriate for and last for that moment. Who can say.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s plenty of reading that can be done on the subject by people much more qualified than we are and with more experience than we have, if you need some inspiration or a deeper basis to draw on. We\u2019ll link a few below to get you started, but please understand people are fallible, and so are these resources. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The driving force behind creating your own group and becoming an adversary to <em>your <\/em>most pressing tyrannies has to come from <em>you<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We can\u2019t wait to see what amazing things you do.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Remember: No hierarchies. Only vibes.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/crimethinc.com\/2017\/02\/06\/how-to-form-an-affinity-group-the-essential-building-block-of-anarchist-organization\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">How to Form an Affinity Group \u2013 CrimethInc<\/a>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>Relative to their small size, affinity groups can achieve a disproportionately powerful impact. In contrast to traditional top-down structures, they are free to adapt to any situation, they need not pass their decisions through a complicated process of ratification, and all the participants can act and react instantly without waiting for orders\u2014yet with a clear idea of what to expect from one another. &#8230; Most important of all, affinity groups are motivated by shared desire and loyalty, rather than profit, duty, or any other compensation or abstraction.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/theanarchistlibrary.org\/library\/tom-knoche-organizing-communities\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Organizing Communities \u2013 Tom Knoche<\/a>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>People get involved with groups because they present an opportunity for them to gain something they want. It may be tangible or intangible, but the motivation to get involved comes with an expectation of relatively short-term gratification. The job of community organizations is to facilitate a process where groups of people with similar needs or problems learn to work together for the benefit of all. Through this process, people learn to work cooperatively and learn that their informal association can usually solve problems more effectively and quickly than established organizations.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/theanarchistlibrary.org\/library\/dave-the-intersections-of-anarchism-and-community-organizing\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">The Intersections of Anarchism And Community Organizing \u2013 Dave<\/a>\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><em>Organizing is not about telling people what to do, nor should organizers go into a community with solutions to problems one identifies as an outsider. Community organizing is a bottom-up process which focuses on solutions to issues established by people who live in the community. One does not have to live in the same place as one organizes, nor does one have to fill the exact same social categories as those you are organizing with (though it definitley would help). The strength of any organizing drive is the potency of the political relationships its participants have with each other and how those relationships move the participants toward challenging relations of power.<\/em><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8216;\u2026 we\u2019d love to hear more about y\u2019all&nbsp;&nbsp;\u2026 as a meme page and a quasi-group? collective? whatever y\u2019all wanna say. In your ideology what are some more positive aspects of y\u2019all? Because from what Tyler said, from what y\u2019all had to say \u2026 y\u2019all sound great?&#8217; &#8216;Don\u2019t take this the wrong way, but y\u2019all seem&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":343,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[651,3,5,1018,1060],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-327","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-anarchism","category-anarcho-satanism","category-community","category-queer-satanic","category-satanism"],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/327","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=327"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/327\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=327"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=327"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=327"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}