{"id":2564,"date":"2023-12-19T15:25:36","date_gmt":"2023-12-19T23:25:36","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/?p=2564"},"modified":"2023-12-19T15:25:36","modified_gmt":"2023-12-19T23:25:36","slug":"the-satanic-temple-and-christian-nationalists-are-on-the-same-side","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/qs.gehenna.ynh.fr\/?p=2564","title":{"rendered":"The Satanic Temple and Christian nationalists are on the same side"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">TST isn&#8217;t engaging in &#8220;successful trolling&#8221; or undermining Dominionists; they are actively fueling a culture war that  benefits both reactionaries and corporate Satanists<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Christmas is a booming season for The Satanic Temple. Submitting winter holiday displays to counter Christian nativity scenes is a tradition for the Temple that goes all the way back to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.jaxdailyrecord.com\/news\/2013\/dec\/20\/satanic-temple-considers-fight-over-display\/\">the Florida Capitol in 2013<\/a>, back during <a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/what-the-hell-is-the-satanic-temple-ep-3-united-federation-of-churches-llc\/#holiday-display\">TST&#8217;s very first year existing in public<\/a> when they were still just a prank documentary film project based in New York trying to figure out how to actually get credulous media attention.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Their first Florida attempt failed and was overshadowed at the time by the more attention-grabbing giant Baphomet with Children statue that was supposed to counter the Oklahoma 10 Commandments monument. However, that monument has never actually been part of any successful &#8220;poison pill&#8221; action, meanwhile in subsequent years, local TST organizations across the country have successfully petitioned states to include their displays which range from &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/happy-holidays-from-the-satanic-temple-with-tst-member\/\">a three-panel poster board that looks like it was made by a high schooler on a deadline<\/a>&#8221; to &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.npr.org\/2018\/12\/04\/673422143\/satanic-sculpture-installed-at-illinois-statehouse-just-in-time-for-the-holidays\">very decent, actually<\/a>.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This year, though, a display for Des Moines, Iowa, has captured <em>much <\/em>more attention than usual, not the least of which because the right wing backlash led to a man actually assaulting the local Baphomet display in an act of protest.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Here&#8217;s how <a href=\"https:\/\/apnews.com\/article\/satanic-temple-display-vandalized-iowa-capitol-199fb41983a3f3a390b7be370214bb64\">the Associated Press<\/a> summarized the situation in Iowa that has generated hundreds of headlines since it started: <\/p>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-black-color has-white-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-8365cb1750d4971c354d2566e9ccb9e7 is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-primary-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">A Satanic Temple display inside the Iowa Capitol in Des Moines was destroyed, and a former U.S. Navy fighter pilot who was recently defeated in a statehouse election in Mississippi is accused of causing the damage.<br><br>The display is permitted by rules that govern religious installations inside the Capitol but has drawn criticism from many conservatives, including presidential candidate Ron DeSantis. A Facebook posting by The Satanic Temple on Thursday said the display, known as a Baphomet statue, \u201cwas destroyed beyond repair,\u201d though part of it remains.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis offered to <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RonDeSantis\/status\/1735671610617499886\">chip in to the fundraiser<\/a> for the man who destroyed the display, which as of Dec. 19 was <a href=\"https:\/\/www.givesendgo.com\/michael-cassidy-legal-defense\">sitting at more than $75,000<\/a>. The Satanic Temple Iowa had their own fundraiser going, so far earning <a href=\"https:\/\/www.gofundme.com\/f\/legal-fees-and-rebuilding\">more than $6,500<\/a>. Doug \u201cLucien Greaves\u201d Misicko <a href=\"https:\/\/www.msn.com\/en-us\/news\/politics\/satanic-temple-leader-calls-out-ron-desantis-for-blaming-holiday-display-on-trump-pathetic-little-coward\/ar-AA1lyaMG\">ramped up his media appearances<\/a>, challenging DeSantis to a debate. TST even got some favorable coverage in <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/12\/15\/us\/the-satanic-temple-after-school-club.html\">the <em>New York Times<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In general, people will call The Satanic Temple&#8217;s activities &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.tumblr.com\/queersatanic\/736902577137008640\/anatomy-of-a-news-cycle-from-local-paper-to-fox\">successful trolling<\/a>&#8221; or drawing attention to &#8220;the direct conflict between Christian Dominionism and the US Constitution&#8221;, claiming it&#8217;s the reactionaries who are falling for something every time.<\/p>\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\n<figure class=\"alignright size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/12\/Ralph-Wolf-and-Sam-the-Sheepdog.jpg\" alt=\"Looney Tunes\u2019 Ralph Wolf and Sam the Sheepdog clocking in to work with punchcards, amicably standing and smiling with their own lunch pails\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>The Satanic Temple and Christian nationalists, punching into work.<\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<\/div>\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In reality, the idea that the right wing is being hoodwinked assumes that they aren&#8217;t benefitting from exactly this, and that these conflicts do not boost both sides taking part in it, each running their own grift for their own reasons.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Partially, this is dynamic exists because Misicko and Cevin \u201cMalcolm Jarry\u201d Soling are fundamentally reactionary Gen X edgelords whose politics never go further left than right-wing libertarianism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Lucien Greaves probably <em>does<\/em> legitimately hate Christian conservatives, but he hated them when he was in his <a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/lucien-greaves-and-the-satanic-temple-have-a-lot-to-answer-for\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">white nationalist-adjacent <\/a>and <a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/why-you-havent-left-the-satanic-temple\/#eugenics\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">openly pro-eugenics<\/a> period, too. Meanwhile, Cevin Soling gets along with the far right quite well for other purposes like <a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/cevin-soling-really-hates-public-schools\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">opposing public schools<\/a> and <a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/the-cevin-who-would-be-king\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">decrying \u201cpolitically correct\u201d college campus culture<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The reason TST and the Christian nationalists are on the same side is that both of them materially benefit from pointing to the other as \u201cthe enemy\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If Republicans didn&#8217;t have TST, they&#8217;d want to invent them (and have). The Temple is their perfect foil.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed aligncenter is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/twitter.com\/DaddyBaphy666\/status\/1787241287000694849\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" id=\"child-evangelism-fellowship\">Actually, Moises Esteves, current Executive Director of Child Evangelism Fellowship (CEF), <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=PelykMjECMg&amp;t=230s\">made almost exactly this argument<\/a> to the <a href=\"https:\/\/www2.cbn.com\/news\/us\/satanic-kids-club-flub-christian-leader-claims-surprising-response-after-school-satan-clubs\">Christian Broadcasting Network<\/a> in regards to the effect After School Satan clubs have on their own, many times larger student clubs.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-video is-provider-youtube wp-block-embed-youtube wp-embed-aspect-16-9 wp-has-aspect-ratio\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Satanic Kids Club Flub? Christian Leader Claims Surprising Response to After School Satan Clubs\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/PelykMjECMg?start=230&#038;feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote has-black-color has-white-background-color has-text-color has-background has-link-color wp-elements-4c301ddac220dfc63378e99f4ec1f9df is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Interviewer: Has that been an effective strategy in terms of shutting any of your clubs down?<\/em><br><br><strong>Esteves<\/strong>: Not really. I mean when this thing initially came out it was a shock for everybody there was some- I think two or three clubs in a particular school district in the East Coast that a superintendent sort of overreacted and shut it- shut them down, but a month or two later they were reopened. So really it hasn&#8217;t accomplished their goals to shut our clubs up. <strong>As a matter of fact, sometimes it does the opposite because Christians that are not aware about the the work we do in the public schools they&#8217;re not aware of child evangelism Fellowship, they go, &#8220;Hey we like what you guys are doing. Can we help?&#8221; So it it helps us have more clubs.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>Interviewer: Have you had people \u2014 and maybe this is tough to answer I don&#8217;t know off the cuff but \u2014 who have come to you and said, &#8220;Hey we didn&#8217;t know about this work. We saw an article about The Satanic Temple. We saw this was going on and we found out that you exist. We want to help, we want to be involved<\/em>&#8220;?<br><br><strong>Esteves<\/strong>: Yes, we&#8217;ve seen many stories like that because what happens- So [The Satanic Temple runs] to the media. <strong>Part of their strategy is to make a big scary splash, right? Well, when the media jumps into the story, then they want to hear the other side. They want to hear our side. So they come and ask questions and so on<\/strong>. And so when the articles go out, a lot of Christians are you know initially- when you see the headline, it&#8217;s a little scandalized about, you know, Satan clubs coming to school. But then [they] start reading they read about this organization [CEF] that that teaches the Bible every week in public schools.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">These Satanic panics get both parties more attention, a higher profile, and more money as folk primarily motivated by anti-partisanship reflexively support something opposed by the groups that those folk hate. \u201cThis\u2019ll really piss off my conservative uncle\/liberal niece.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We wrote this about a different nativity display that was getting attention a couple of years ago, this one in Illinois. It\u2019s still largely relevant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-queer-satanic wp-block-embed-queer-satanic\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"wp-embedded-content\" data-secret=\"6ezlLdlN2c\"><a href=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/how-the-satanic-temple-controls-the-media-and-your-mind-part-1-satanic-nativity\/\">Anatomy of a News Cycle: From local paper to Fox News segment<\/a><\/blockquote><iframe loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" style=\"position: absolute; visibility: hidden;\" title=\"&#8220;Anatomy of a News Cycle: From local paper to Fox News segment&#8221; &#8212; Queer Satanic\" src=\"https:\/\/queersatanic.com\/how-the-satanic-temple-controls-the-media-and-your-mind-part-1-satanic-nativity\/embed\/#?secret=fWt3H5jyb6#?secret=6ezlLdlN2c\" data-secret=\"6ezlLdlN2c\" width=\"500\" height=\"282\" frameborder=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\" marginheight=\"0\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<blockquote class=\"wp-block-quote is-layout-flow wp-block-quote-is-layout-flow\">\n<p class=\"has-primary-background-color has-background wp-block-paragraph\">This is certainly not the worst thing that The Satanic Temple does. Yes, it is fun to tweak the Christians a little bit.<br><br>But it\u2019s important to realize that the Catholics and Republican politicians are benefitting from this, too. Maybe even more than TST given the way the conservative movement functions. The right-wing grifters are telling their audience that Satanists and Democrats are teaming up to indoctrinate your children, destroy your religion, and murder your family, and that\u2019s why you should vote for them or should support your local church in these end times or should stock up on the bunker supplies their website sells.<br><br>That is mainstream conservatism these days. Your neighbor is not reading George Will books and articles; he\u2019s listening to Dan Bongino for hours every day and being primed for stochastic terrorism.<br><br>Just as importantly, it\u2019s the negative space in these stories. What\u2019s not being covered so that all of them, left-right-and-center, can lean into their conflict narratives?<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, it seems like it\u2019s fun and a good thing to watch The Satanic Temple piss off people you hate. But that feeling is exactly the lubricant that makes the grift work.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We&#8217;ve long said that the best way to describe The Satanic Temple to someone unfamiliar with them is &#8220;<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/PsychotronicCty\/status\/1673100293393842178\">Scientology for mall goths<\/a>&#8220;.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So imagine instead it were Scientologists doing this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And if media only ever treated Scientologists like merry pranksters, never getting into the front companies, treatment of former members, or histories of the <em>literal owners of a corporate religion<\/em>, would that coverage actually be informing people of what\u2019s going on? Or would it be doing the exact opposite.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>TST isn&#8217;t engaging in &#8220;successful trolling&#8221; or undermining Dominionists; they are actively fueling a culture war that benefits both reactionaries and corporate Satanists Christmas is a booming season for The Satanic Temple. 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