On Monday, the ACLU filed a motion<\/a> that essentially said, \u201cLook, The Satanic Temple keeps filing motions that have nothing to do with us, trying to re-open discovery, but that was supposed to be done by April 2020, and both us and the Defense have taken care of our business. Let\u2019s get on with it.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n The Cave Plaintiffs are ready, willing and able to submit their motion for summary judgment on the merits of their claim that the presence and display of the Ten Commandments Monument on the grounds of the Arkansas State Capitol violates the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment. The Cave Plaintiffs understand that Defendant Thurston is prepared to file a similar motion in defense of the Ten Commandments Monument. The Court should permit these motions to be filed without any further delay.<\/p> The Cave Plaintiffs urge this Court to deny any efforts to reopen discovery and further delay resolution of this lawsuit, which has been pending on this Court\u2019s docket for over 40 months (May 2018).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n It\u2019s terse.<\/p>\n\n\n\n This follows on the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette<\/em> reporting on some of the latest filings between The Satanic Temple and the state, which mainly involve Lucien Greaves and The Satanic Temple\u2019s lawyer Matt Kezhaya embarrassing the hell out of themselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Reporter Dale Ellis<\/a> got some great quotes from Michael Cantrell, assistant solicitor general with the state Attorney General\u2019s office<\/a>, but this barely scratches the surface.<\/p>\n\n\n\n As a federal lawsuit filed over a Ten Commandments monument placed on the grounds of the state Capitol passed the\u2026<\/em>www.arkansasonline.com<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Michael Cantrell, an attorney with the office of the Arkansas attorney general, representing Secretary of State Thurston, accused attorneys for the Satanic Temple, an intervenor in the case, of not turning over relevant documents sought by his office. Cantrell said requests for documents pertaining to the Satanic Temple\u2019s identity and financial organization had not been turned over and that the organization had mounted conflicting claims as to why the information should not be given.<\/p> \u201cThey claimed that they are the United Federation of Churches LLC, they claimed to be the Satanic Temple Inc., repeatedly rejected requests and refused to turn over documents on the grounds that the Satanic Temple is not, quote\u200a\u2014\u200aunquote, a discrete entity<\/strong>,\u201d Cantrell said. \u201cWe\u2019ve asked the court to compel the Satanic Temple to provide documents responsive to those requests<\/strong>.\u201d<\/p> Matt Kezhaya, attorney for the Satanic Temple, maintained that all documents sought by Thurston\u2019s attorneys had been turned over as ordered.<\/p> \u201cI\u2019m a little bit confused about what the defendant is seeking,\u201d Kezhaya said. \u201cWe provided the articles of incorporation; we provided the bylaws for the Satanic Temple Inc.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n \u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n Cantrell accused Kezhaya of being less than forthcoming, however, about the role of the Satanic Temple Inc. in the lawsuit to the exclusion of other entities, saying the organization is active in a number of areas through its affiliate entities and local chapters<\/strong>.<\/p> \u201cThe Satanic Temple includes more than just the Satanic Temple Inc<\/strong>,\u201d he said. \u201cThis appears to be a shell game the Satanic Temple is playing in trying to avoid providing responsive documents that we\u2019ve been trying to get for well over two years now<\/strong>.\u201d<\/p> Kezhaya responded by saying he would turn over any documents ordered by the court but that he was still not clear exactly what documents were being sought.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n So let\u2019s try to take you through this and help you understand how we learned that:<\/p>\n\n\n\n We\u2019ll also take you through how, more substantially to the history of alt-right and worse behavior, former TST collaborator Shane Bugbee claims:<\/p>\n\n\n\n As you can tell, that is a lot to get through so we\u2019re largely going to skip through the history of Cave v. Thurston<\/em><\/a> itself because that is really complicated and more to do with the ACLU.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Just understand that the whole thing goes back to 2015 (a date that will be important later), that the first 10 Commandments monument was actually placed at the state capitol in 2017 but had someone hit it with a car the day after it was erected, and that the current monument has only been up since April 2018, which is why the federal case only officially starts in May 2018. If you want more details, you can read them here:<\/p>\n\n\n\n As litigants in a federal lawsuit over a Ten Commandments monument placed on the grounds of the Arkansas state Capitol\u2026<\/em>www.arkansasonline.com<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n OK, let\u2019s do this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n In 2018, The Satanic Temple pushed themselves into the middle of the ACLU\u2019s case as intervenors<\/a>, likely due to co-owner Lucien Greaves\u2019 ongoing feud with State Sen. Jason Rapert. This is something that was close to a main storyline for Penny Lane\u2019s incredibly TST-friendly 2019 documentary \u201cHail Satan?\u201d but the feud was also cited by ex-national members as one of the many factors<\/a> leading to the Great Schism of 2018<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Cave v. Thurston<\/em> was a fight that the ACLU already had well under control and one that likely been incredibly draining to TST\u2019s limited finances in the more than three subsequent years and dozens of filings TST has engaged in. The only benefit seems to have been that it allowed TST to go after Rapert and the American History and Heritage Foundation to further Greaves\u2019 mutual grudge with them.<\/p>\n\n\n\n That said, U.S. District Judge Kristine Baker had been generous to The Satanic Temple thus far in the case, and at the last major juncture in October<\/a>, Judge Baker ruled in TST\u2019s favor<\/a> on a number of motions as the state of Arkansas continued to work to get at just which entity it was dealing with in this case and what all records of its own it needed to hand over.<\/p>\n\n\n\n But in this more recent interaction, The Satanic Temple had a truck full of bad news back up and dump the whole load out into the public, not just related to this case (such as TST missing deadlines and pissing off the ACLU) but to the fundamental legitimacy of The Satanic Temple and its two owners: Lucien Greaves and Cevin Soling.<\/p>\n\n\n\n (Greaves\u2019 government name is \u201cDouglas Alexander Misicko\u201d and he has in the past also used the public pseudonym \u201cDoug Mesner\u201d among others, but unlike Cevin \u201cMalcolm Jarry\u201d Soling, Greaves does not try to keep a separate public life from TST, so we\u2019ll keep referring to him that way for sake of clarity.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n The absolute worst news of all was Greaves having to confront his own words and deeds as a matter of court record and sworn testimony.<\/p>\n\n\n\n The Satanic Temple is in this mess because when TST proposed placing their Baphomet statue at the Little Rock Capitol in September 2015, United Federation of Churches LLC was the only corp by that name who could have done it.<\/p>\n\n\n\n You may notice from that motion to intervene that, initially in 2018, Greaves tried to get himself added onto the case as that trademarked pseudonym<\/a> rather than his government name. This is one of the many things that made the state upset at TST<\/a> in the first place and start looking into it more deeply. Then Arkansas seems to have kept running into lots of different issues with the way TST was representing themselves for the purposes of the case.<\/p>\n\n\n\n As we\u2019ve pointed out before<\/a>, the Temple is rather loose and vague about how all of these various corporations that constitute it actually related to one another and share finances.<\/p>\n\n\n\n In fact, in August 2018, Cave v. Thurston<\/em> includes one of only two references anywhere we\u2019ve come across \u201cThe Satanic Temple, LLC<\/a>\u201d which was supposed to be the amended caption in response to the state challenging TST\u2019s ambiguity.<\/p>\n\n\n\n In lieu of bickering over whether it was really \u201cambiguous\u201d which \u201cThe Satanic Temple\u201d and which \u201cLucien Greaves\u201d were involved, proposed intervenors submitted an amended complaint in intervention which amends the caption to reflect \u201cThe Satanic Temple, LLC\u201d<\/strong> and \u201cDoug Misicko (aka Lucien Greaves).\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n Consider that: not <\/em>\u201cUnited Federation of Churches LLC d\/b\/a The Satanic Temple\u201d or<\/em> \u201cThe Satanic Temple Inc\u201d; is it some other corporation, a typo, another nickname?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Actually, the only reference<\/a> we\u2018ve been able to find such a thing is a 2014 Facebook post<\/a> by The Satanic Temple sharing a WhiteHouse.gov petition<\/a> presumably TST created about why religious organizations should be taxed. Otherwise, nothing.<\/p>\n\n\n\n (The irony is that United Federation of Churches LLC<\/a> is a for-profit corporation while The Satanic Temple Inc.<\/a> is a tax-exempt religious nonprofit.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n So apparently, for those purposes in 2014, \u201cThe Satanic Temple LLC\u201d is\/was an alternate name of \u201cUnited Federation of Churches LLC\u201d, just one that was unofficial and looks a little fancier(?)<\/p>\n\n\n\n In August 2018, it seems like that must have been what they meant as well since it wasn\u2019t till May 24, 2019<\/a>, that the nonprofit \u201cThe Satanic Temple\u201d, full stop, changed its name to \u201cThe Satanic Temple Inc.\u201d, which was after the IRS approval and partially why so many places list the tax-deductible charity as the doing business of name of TST\u2019s primary for-profit.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Seems just a teensy bit confusing, one might even hazard intentionally so, but surely the owners can at least keep track of all this stuff and the buck stops with them, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Here\u2019s Lucien Greaves (government name Douglas Alexander Misicko) when he has to address TST\u2019s front companies on the record from an attorney with the power of a state behind them. The transcript is edited slightly here for clarity of the exchanges, so if you want to check for yourself, read it in full<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Q. Does the United Federation of Churches have any legal or financial oversight by anyone else? Greaves goes on to explain that the creation of Reason Alliance Ltd. also in 2014 was so that \u201cdonors could get their tax writeoff\u201d and done under the advisement of Cevin Soling\u2019s business lawyer James MacNaughton<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n (Greaves does not mention this, but MacNaugton is the one who would go on to represent TST\u2019s clients in the Mary Doe and Judy Doe abortion rights cases in Missouri<\/a>, all of which failed at every level, state and federal.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n Greaves is not really able to answer anything about United Federation of Churches LLC despite being either the sole or one of two governing officers, and likewise, Greaves flounders as it comes to Reason Alliance Ltd. The story repeats again as the state\u2019s attorney asks Greaves questions about The Satanic Temple Inc., founded in 2017. But as we said, it would only get IRS recognition as a nonprofit church in 2019 and become active then.<\/p>\n\n\n\n On the matter of Cinephobia LLC, Greaves gives a more coherent answer about wanting a separate for-profit corporation\u200a\u2014\u200aowned by the same people out of the same building using a similar dba\u2014 for their streaming service, but when pressed about why <\/em>they need all the non-profits and for-profits, it\u2019s back to not knowing. Actually, there are even more associated corporations, but, at least in this excerpt, additional for-profit corporations \u201c64 Bridge LLC\u201d and \u201cWinstonian Enterprises Ltd.\u201d do not come up, so those may not have been known about to be asked about.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Greaves says he isn\u2019t sure why<\/em> the website as of February 2020 still tells people that \u201ccontributions\/donations support the efforts and campaigns of The Satanic Temple but are not tax deductible<\/strong>\u201d, and he says that should get updated eventually.<\/p>\n\n\n\n But as we\u2019ve talked about<\/a>, to this day the website TheSatanicTemple.com involves a level of subtlety so minute it is difficult not to view it as intentionally misleading. Some <\/em>items are donations to the tax-deductible 501(c)3 church, but most have no such language and seem to continue to benefit the for-profit corporation United Federation of Churches LLC.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Which apparently is just dumped into \u201ca general fund\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Greaves is essentially saying, \u201cI thought it was totally normal and on-the-level to be able to refer to \u2018The Satanic Temple\u2019 as a for-profit or non-profit as needed despite them sharing the same building, website, and owners, etc., just whatever was most convenient at the time. \u201d Which, especially as someone who likes to go out into the world and present himself as some kind of Harvard-graduate brain-giant, is a bit staggering to claim.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Really, read that deposition<\/a>. If you think we\u2019re being unfair or leaving out critical details of these exchanges, let us know. By all means.<\/p>\n\n\n\n But what do we always say?<\/p>\n\n\n\n \u201cWhen it comes to The Satanic Temple, there\u2019s always more, and it\u2019s always worse.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n There\u2019s a very natural question to ask as a follow-up, and, indeed, the state\u2019s attorney asks it<\/a>: how exactly <\/em>does that general fund get used?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Well, turns out sometimes Lucien Greaves needs a little help covering his rent.<\/p>\n\n\n\n There\u2019s no receipts related to this, but Greaves claims it\u2019s never more than $2,000 per month (not counting business expenses), and apparently TST members and donors are just supposed to trust him on all this.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Are you starting to see why the state of Arkansas isn\u2019t just harassing The Satanic Temple when it\u2019s trying to get at the financial records of an organization with numerous front companies, a pool of general money the owners can dip into as they see fit without any oversight, and yet regularly calls itself a nonprofit?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Salome DeMeur, the former TST member from Florida, told Newsweek<\/em><\/a> she got pushed out after asking Greaves why \u201che was going to sue Twitter like it was personal vendetta, but then using TST money to do so.\u201d<\/strong> But when it\u2019s all just Greaves\u2019 money to spend as he considers most appropriate, why not?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Or as former St. Louis Chapter Head and National Council member Nikki Moungo put it<\/a> back in 2018:<\/p>\n\n\n\n Though I cannot claim malfeasance in this matter (lacking access to the records), I find the lack of visibility on event expenditures and earnings unsettling and an odd practice. I did request summary financial information and suggested it be made public on their website as a transparency commitment to donors, whether or not it was required. My requests and suggestions were ignored.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n Again, this is something we\u2019ve talked about before<\/a> because The Satanic Temple tried to fundraise $30,000 for their nonprofit church \u201cThe Satanic Temple Inc\u201d while suing us with the for-profit \u201cUnited Federation of Churches LLC d\/b\/a The Satanic Temple\u201d<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n But it should be something anyone who is considering handing to The Satanic Temple any money in any <\/em>fashion ought to be thinking about. Lucien Greaves is one of two people, and sometimes the only one, who officially owns all of these overlapping corporations that are supposedly set up to segregate money properly. And yet he cannot talk intelligibly even to how much money he was drawing from The Satanic Temple\u2019s coffers, and they show no one.<\/p>\n\n\n\n \u201cJust trust us\u201d is not sufficient financial disclosure or transparency for an organization that, at a minimum, <\/strong>brings in many hundreds of thousands of dollars<\/strong><\/a> every year.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n We have tried, in a more thorough way, to really examine these organizations<\/a> and what their boundaries are. But in spite of Greaves\u2019 professed belief that all of the financials were already out there in public for everyone, that\u2019s only true for regular nonprofits that report more than $50,000 in annual revenue, like Reason Alliance Ltd<\/a>. If you\u2019re a for-profit corporation or a nonprofit church, you don\u2019t have any requirement to disclose your finances to the public.<\/p>\n\n\n\n The Satanic Temple doesn\u2019t have many legal victories on the religious exemption front, but in getting IRS recognition as a religious nonprofit<\/a>, TST probably won the only religious exemption it ever actually cared about<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Much of that money is donated with the best of intentions, as a (justifiably) outraged response to the escalating conservative assaults on abortion rights.<\/p>\n\n\n\n In response to the recent \u201cabortion bounty bill\u201d Texas SB8 and the ongoing hearings in Dobbs v. Jackson<\/em> out of Mississippi to overturn Roe <\/em>outright, the relative certainty of it and people\u2019s powerlessness about it have made them eager to \u201cdo something\u201d and engage in magical thinking that it can succeed. Just off of Texas and presumably just counting The Satanic Temple Inc., TST publicly announced raising at least $300,000 in two campaigns<\/a> since February 2021. But as to other fundraising campaigns, Amazon Smile<\/a>, and all the other incorporated entities\u200a\u2014\u200awho can say?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Back when they had less money to be responsible for, maybe it wasn\u2019t as important.<\/p>\n\n\n\n But with that exception of Reason Alliance, they\u2019re not releasing Form 990s or other transparent financials for people to see where money is going to apply oversight.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Even with those filings, compare how the abortion access provided Texas Equal Access Fund shows where its money is going in a required filing<\/a>, including having a separate accountant and larger oversight board, versus Reason Alliance<\/a>, which is two dudes saying they don\u2019t take money but explicitly admitting in past years<\/a> they gave the money back to themselves through their for-profit United Federation Churches LLC under the justification \u201cencourage reasoning\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n To the extent that TST loyalists even acknowledge their courtroom defeats, they often try to excuse them as a function of the courts\u2019 rightwing bias, which\u200a\u2014\u200agranted\u200a\u2014\u200aobviously exists and has for many decades before TST existed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n However, that is the game TST decided to play, and when you consider how much money TST raises from the idea that its theory of social change must be within the realm of court proceduralism, an alternate view of TST emerges: as an organization that requires the threat to abortion access to consistently grow worse in order for TST to sustain its own murky operations (at least so long as no one looks too closely at those operations).<\/p>\n\n\n\n That possibility should make everyone think twice before sending a single dollar more to them, particularly given a moment when so many other, more responsible organizations with better track records desperately need resources.<\/p>\n\n\n\n If financial transparency is not that important to you, or you just think it\u2019s plausible that Cevin Soling trusts Greaves enough to handle soliciting nudes on Twitter for TST holidays<\/a> but doesn\u2019t trust him enough to make serious financial decisions and therefore keeps Greaves on a tight leash, we\u2019re not going to convince you at this point. So let\u2019s move on.<\/p>\n\n\n\n The other main area where TST is a net negative in any cause it barges into the middle of is the history of its most prominent figure, especially as it comes to his infamously low regard for observant Jewish people<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Indeed, after some questions about a certain tattoo on Greaves\u2019 arm<\/a>, the state of Arkansas asks Greaves about that \u201cmoment of cringe<\/a>\u201d as some have tried to minimize and explain it away.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Confronted, Greaves first attempts to give his usual excuses: It\u2019s out of context! It\u2019s a long time ago! You can\u2019t trust the source!<\/p>\n\n\n\n (Reminder: it is not out of context<\/a>, and the context makes it much worse<\/a>.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n But unlike pliant podcasters, reporters, or Texas State University professor and author Dr. Joseph Laycock<\/a>, the state of Arkansas is a bit more dogged about demanding answers.<\/p>\n\n\n\n So Lucien Greaves and Matt Kezhaya just walk the hell out the door because Greaves actually can\u2019t <\/em>address it. Not honestly, anyway, and not if presented with audio before and after and made to answer for himself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n When they come back, Greaves refuses<\/em> to authenticate the antisemitic\/eugenics audio and continues to pretend he didn\u2019t hear it a ton less than two years before this deposition when all the major chapters left in 2018.<\/p>\n\n\n\n \u201cThis same fragment makes the rounds every couple of years, brought up by people trying to discredit Lucien<\/strong>,\u201d TST\u2019s meeting notes for Sept. 18, 2018<\/a>, read.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Indeed, this is exactly contrary<\/em> to how Greaves himself portrayed the clip in a recent podcast interview with Cinephobia LLC employee Stephen Bradford Long<\/a>, where Greaves said he didn\u2019t mind addressing it because it came up so often.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Yet: \u201cI would be listening to it for the first time in a long time<\/strong>,\u201d Greaves says in his sworn deposition, and claims he couldn\u2019t even authenticate his own voice<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Well, which is it, Doug? Is it like the legal status of all the corporations you\u2019re supposed to be the top level of, and you just use whatever is most convenient as necessary? Or is there an honest answer we can hope to get to the bottom of someday?<\/p>\n\n\n\n Despite defenders of The Satanic Temple saying, \u201cThis was a long time ago and has nothing to do with anything,\u201d no, actually.<\/p>\n\n\n\n This is part of a filing made in an ongoing case<\/em> that involves TST\u2019s supposed bread-and-butter of opposing Christian monuments on public land, and the incident itself is from a deposition recorded just last year, March 2020.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Yeah, it\u2019s embarrassing. Yeah, it\u2019s grotesque. But yeah, it really fucking matters<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n We can also<\/em> already hear TST defenders saying, \u201cThe Satanic Temple is fundamentally different from the worst things Lucien Greaves said and did with Shane Bugbee before TST ever existed, even if it\u2019s coming up in court right now.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n Well.<\/p>\n\n\n For those who need it, here\u2019s a quick recap of Shane Bugbee\u2019s relevant history with The Satanic Temple. For those already familiar, feel free to skip down to the next section.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n Shane Bugbee was a one-time member of the Church of Satan, renaissance man of hate speech such as organizing the \u201cAngry White Male\u201d tour in 2001<\/a> and that collection of scumbags; Bugbee had re-published Might Is Right<\/em><\/a>, the 19th-century proto-fascist screed that had fallen into the public domain, but Bugbee\u2019s edition included an introduction from Anton LaVey, editor\u2019s note by white supremacist publisher Katja Lane, and afterword by George Burdi of white power band RaHoWa.<\/p>\n\n\n\n In 2003, Bugbee released another edition of that book, but this one also had illustrations by his friend Lucien Greaves, then going by the pseudonym \u201cDoug Mesner\u201d. Together, Shane Bugbee, Greaves, and Shane Bugbee\u2019s wife Amy put on a 24-hour live Internet radio stream via \u201cRadio Free Satan\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n (Note: this is often mistakenly dated to 2002 and erroneously referred to as a \u201cpodcast\u201d, and but the live listener call-ins were supposed to be an important element of the show.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n Can You Chip In? The Internet Archive is growing faster than ever before, and we need your help. As an independent\u2026<\/em>archive.org<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Full transcript<\/strong><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n Those 24 hours included a lot of included a bunch of really horrendous interviews with violent white nationalists, slurs, and some apparently quite serious conversations about the need to re-introduce forcible sterilization and eugenics to the world.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Greaves and Shane Bugbee continued to have a consistent working relationship after that for some time, and Greaves seems to have tapped Bugbee to come in and try to fix The Satanic Temple around the summer of 2013 after the first attempt at a launch in January 2013 came off like a wet fart.<\/p>\n\n\n\n More on all that here:<\/p>\n\n\n\n What the hell is \u201cThe Satanic Temple\u201d?\u200a\u2014\u200aEp. 3: United Federation of Churches LLC<\/strong> medium.com<\/a><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n The short version is that Bugbee was\u200a\u2014\u200afor all of his many faults\u200a\u2014\u200asomeone with a lot of indie credibility and necessary media connections for something like TST to actually get off the ground. He understood social media far better than they seemed to. And Bugbee understood that if they wanted to make money, they needed to give people something to invest in, like quality merch or the promise of a magical idea.<\/p>\n\n\n\n It\u2019s not obvious whether the state of Arkansas sought out Shane Bugbee or if he went to them. It would seem one of the reasons that The Satanic Temple\u2019s recent filings seek the correspondence between the state AG\u2019s office and Bugbee<\/a> is to get at that very question, and possibly intimidate other people from coming forward with information against TST and its owners<\/strong>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n That\u2019s the conclusion the state comes to in its response, with Arkansas joining with the ACLU in opposing the re-opening of discovery<\/a> 40 months after it closed and against further extending the case where, again, one plaintiff has already expired<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n As examples of TST\u2019s consistent bad legal behavior, the state includes some cases followers of our social media may already be acquainted with: Belle Plaine<\/a>, Boston<\/a>, and, ahem, ourselves<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n (Moreover, we\u2019re still being sued by The Satanic Temple in federal court. Check our pinned post on Facebook<\/a> for more.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n But boy, did Bugbee deliver a ton <\/em>of stuff to the state of Arkansas himself, and, thanks to The Satanic Temple seeking to exclude it all, TST called more attention to it<\/a> for all the public to see.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Excerpts will be included below, but please read the full deposition by Shane Bugbee<\/a> and look at its supporting documentation for yourself.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Some of this, we didn\u2019t know for certain, but people had suspected.<\/p>\n\n\n\n All of the folks who looked at The Satanic Temple\u2019s second major publicity stunt, the so-called Pink Mass<\/a>, and said \u201creal gay people don\u2019t kiss like that\u201d, you have been vindicated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n This assertion seems to have been the source of a line of particularly funny and humiliating questioning, which you can read about on your own in this summarized form<\/a> or in full for yourself<\/a> because there\u2019s still a fair bit to get through.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Shane Bugbee is willing to swear that, for Lucien Greaves, all that stuff about dipping into general funds whenever he was traveling for \u201cofficial\u201d business of The Satanic Temple or helping out with rent was very much the goal from the start, not an accident.<\/p>\n\n\n\n But maybe you think Shane Bugbee is not to be trusted in regards to his mere word. You say that he\u2019s got a grudge, and he\u2019s willing to lie in sworn statements about it (which is possible).<\/p>\n\n\n\n And yet, Bugbee brings the receipts<\/a> on lots of things many people have suggested or pointed to over the years, us included.<\/p>\n\n\n\n One of the things Bugbee brings up is his and Lucien Greaves\u2019 interview of White Aryan Resistance (WAR) founder and former KKK grand dragon Tom Metzger in the 2003 \u201cMight Is Right\u201d stream. Bugbee points out in sworn testimony that Metzger and Greaves largely agreed in the matter of good and bad Jews.<\/p>\n\n\n\n In fact, in this area Greaves has the more extreme position, asserting that there was a \u201cdistinct phenotype<\/a>\u201d of Jewishness to be considered, whereas Metzger demurred about opinions differing. As we have talked about elsewhere<\/a>, that\u2019s all something that severely<\/em> undercuts Greaves\u2019 excuses about how he was just trying to inarticulately express some idea he had back then because he badly misspoke this one time; in the interview with Metzger, Greaves<\/em> is the one to push this line of conversation, just as hours earlier, Greaves\u200a\u2014\u200a<\/em>completely unprompted\u200a\u2014\u200abrought up Nazis ruining the word \u201cantisemitic\u201d to continue a point about Nazis ruining the concept of eugenics.<\/p>\n\n\n\n Bugbee\u2019s deposition goes further to put to rest all the nonsense about Lucien Greaves being so completely different from the Jew-hating, eugenics-loving edgelord we heard in 2003. Yes, those leaked emails about \u201cMight Is Right II\u201d from June 2013<\/a> look even worse<\/em> with the additional context of 2011.<\/p>\n\n\n\n This is the real Doug Misicko, the real \u201cDoug Mesner\u201d, the real \u201cLucien Greaves\u201d as he was just 10 years ago. This is him with his guard down talking to a friend in emails he surely never expected would show up later when he was a public figure cultivating a completely opposite persona as the face of a kinder, more caring, more liberal Satanism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n As of that email in 2011, The Satanic Temple (probably<\/a>) doesn\u2019t exist yet, but two years later, Greaves even pitches a similar idea referencing an updated book that includes \u201caltruism\u201d. Except in 2013, to Cevin Soling, Greaves leaves out that part about \u201cmore evil than the first\u201d while claiming\u200a\u2014\u200acompletely implausibly\u200a\u2014\u200athat the antisemitism in Might Is Right<\/em> is just referring to Jews \u201cin an ambiguous fashion\u201d.<\/p>\n\n\n\n We will spare you the screenshots of extended quotes about \u201cJew-Bankers<\/a>\u201d, \u201chulking thick skulled Negros<\/a>\u201d, and extermination of inferior breeds<\/a> unless you want to click on them to read.<\/p>\n\n\n\n \u201cOutdated.\u201d \u201cAmbiguous.\u201d \u201cWhat we can learn from it today.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n Uh huh.<\/p>\n\n\n\n \u201cWhen it comes to The Satanic Temple, there\u2019s always more, and it\u2019s always worse.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n Again, a lot of this is stuff we already basically knew. It\u2019s just sworn testimony now with evidence in the federal court record, so it\u2019s going to be a lot harder for TST owner Cevin Soling to keep this off of his Wikipedia page entry<\/a> claiming mere rumors or claiming that the Village Voice<\/em> is a tabloid and its reporting<\/a> is not to be trusted.<\/p>\n\n\nDefense contends Satanic Temple not turning over documents in Ten Commandments lawsuit<\/strong><\/a><\/h3>\n\n\n\n
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I\u2019m asking: Is there anyone to whom\u200a\u2014\u200ayeah, who\u200a\u2014\u200awho supervises your legal or financial activities?
A. No. I mean, we\u200a\u2014\u200aif there\u2019s question, we would consult
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But we don\u2019t answer to some kind of higher authority who makes executive decisions on, like, where things are allocated or anything like that. That\u2019s like\u200a\u2014\u200awe\u2019re the highest rung of the ladder. Malcolm and I.<\/em><\/strong>
Q. So there\u2019s no board? You\u2019re not accountable to a board of oversight or a board of directors or anything of that nature?
A. Correct.<\/em><\/strong>
<\/em>Q. Okay. Has the United Federation of Churches ever made public disclosures of its income or expenditures?
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For more information, see The.Satanic.Wiki<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n
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